I hear that Brazilian Jiu jitsu was based on judo and japanese jujitsu.
Peter has it right but i think his view of GJJ is a little skewed. in my class we train take downs, standing locks, self defense. GJJ/BJJ is more than ground fighting. that’s just where it shines most. like TKD isn’t just kicks, but they arguably have the best kicking in most MA’s
to answer your question in my words, Judo would be my favorite choice because you can use the average wild street brawlers adrenaline rush against him when he charges you swinging or when a mugger grabs your jacket and tries to control you.
most people say Judo isn’t the keen because they lack in strikes. well if you put an attacker down and control him on the ground you won’t NEED to strike. and i’m sure anyone can strike form the ground halfway decent if needed.
Judo also has a brilliant ground game. about 95% of BJJ’s ground game. they don’t use leg locks though. most instructors won’t show you them if it’s a sport dojo, one that emphasizes competitions, but some do show you them for self defense.
Japanese Jujutsu’s the art of the Samurai. I don’t know too too much about it, but from what i understand, it deals with a fair amount of wrist locks and chokeholds and counter strikes and ground game. a very good art but outside of Japan, you won’t find a great school. and JJJ is one of those arts that a McDojo can REALLY hurt you.
as for the best for street fighting, i’d say they are fairly equal. i’d try to do all of them if i could. JJJ will help you strike with them, Judo will help you get them to the ground, and BJJ will help you finish them on the ground.
judo focuse on throws and some stuff from traditional jujitsu, traditional jujitsu focuse on strikes, kicks, throws, rolls,gun defencs and knive defence and ground fighting..bjj is strictly ground fighting.. i would say judo or traditional jujitsuwould be good in a street fight becuase in judo u could slamm some one on the ground really hard so they would not get up if you slammed them on concrete and traditional jujitsu would be good because it does a little of all three..bjj wouldnt be that good because your most likely to start a fight standing up..
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Answer above is correct.
None of them are any good for street fighting.
Street-fighting is a criminal activity pursued by criminals. It’s not a game. Never bring a knife to a gunfight.
The answer is martial arts may be good at keeping you out of street-fights. They may give you the self-respect you need not to get involved with such a pointless activity, do something more meaningful with your life and use your head for something better than a target.
Street fights are a straight road to permanent injuries and criminal records. Don’t think street fight. Think self-defense (a much wider subject).
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Peter has it right but i think his view of GJJ is a little skewed. in my class we train take downs, standing locks, self defense. GJJ/BJJ is more than ground fighting. that’s just where it shines most. like TKD isn’t just kicks, but they arguably have the best kicking in most MA’s
to answer your question in my words, Judo would be my favorite choice because you can use the average wild street brawlers adrenaline rush against him when he charges you swinging or when a mugger grabs your jacket and tries to control you.
most people say Judo isn’t the keen because they lack in strikes. well if you put an attacker down and control him on the ground you won’t NEED to strike. and i’m sure anyone can strike form the ground halfway decent if needed.
Judo also has a brilliant ground game. about 95% of BJJ’s ground game. they don’t use leg locks though. most instructors won’t show you them if it’s a sport dojo, one that emphasizes competitions, but some do show you them for self defense.
Japanese Jujutsu’s the art of the Samurai. I don’t know too too much about it, but from what i understand, it deals with a fair amount of wrist locks and chokeholds and counter strikes and ground game. a very good art but outside of Japan, you won’t find a great school. and JJJ is one of those arts that a McDojo can REALLY hurt you.
as for the best for street fighting, i’d say they are fairly equal. i’d try to do all of them if i could. JJJ will help you strike with them, Judo will help you get them to the ground, and BJJ will help you finish them on the ground.
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As pointed out, Jiu Jitsu is the ancient art which involved striking, throws and ground fighting.
Judo’s roots are in JJ, but they concentrate on throws with some ground work (called Newaza), it used to be 50/50, not most are 70 throws and 30 ground work.
BJJ is very similar to Jiu Jitsu ground techniques or judo newaza, although they decided to concentrate on the ground fighting techniques and added up as well as refined some of the moves, some BJJ teach a couple of takedowns or throws.
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The main problem with JJJ is that many throws and takedowns are taught in a compliant method, for your information, The japanese police force wanted to include a MA to train in for "the street" and "self defense", so they had JJJ fight against Judo players and Judo won. Japanese police force trains in Judo.
I recommend you train in Judo, the throws and slams will be effective from the standing clinch, and if you are taken to the ground (which happens in most fights) you could use Newaza to get up.
Although BJJ is VERY effective, you generally dont want to remain on the ground because it leaves you more vulnerable to other people attacking or your attacker could pull a foreign object (knife) and you wont be able to quickly run away.
So go with Judo and after being good at it, if you feel you need more ground work sign up for BJJ classes.
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My choice ( I’m biased )
Japanese ju-jitsu every time …why ????
Japanese ju-jitsu is the father.
Judo is the son,
Brazillian jiu-jitsu is the grandson.
best learn at the source….nuff said !!!
best wishes
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Japanese ju-jitsu coach,Boxer,Bouncer.
Judo is more on the throws and flips but they do have submissions too. BJJ is submissions done on the ground and jujitsu i think they got stand up and ground submissions.
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Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu is based on Kodokan Judo not Japanese Jujitsu like the Gracie family claims. Carlos Gracie’s master Mitsuyo Maeda was a 4th degree black belt in Judo not Jujitsu. Maeda was trained in sumo as a child then switched to judo as a teenager. He never trained in traditional jujitsu.
As far as differences go just like karate there are different forms of Japanese jujitsu. Some styles focused on striking, some on throwing, some on ground fighting, some on weapons training, and some on every aspect of combat.
Judo founder Jigoro Kano was trained in 3 different types of jujitsu. Original judo or pre-WW 2 judo was originally both a stand and ground fighting art but did not include striking techniques (eventually striking was included after Kano had befriended shotokan karate founder Gichen Funokoshi). Around the early 20th century judoka (often referred to as kosen judo) who had specialized in ground fighting (newaza) began to dominate judo competitions
In the late 1920s to early 1930s Kano fearing that judo’s stand up techniques would be forsaken in favor of newaza began making rule changes that limited the amound of time that was spent on the ground and the number of times a person could take another down. The result is that the vast majority of judo schools today lack or do not train in newaza.
Maeda who was one of the kodokan’s best judoka was skilled in both throwing and grappling. Maeda believing that it was easier to teach newaza than throwing mainly taught his Brazilian students ground fighting. The Gracie’s not being affiliated with the Kodokan continued to specialize in newaza while the rest of the judo world focused on throwing.
Eventually the Gracies began to modify the judo they were taught adding and eliminating many techniques over the years through trial and error and through cross training i other arts.
As for which is better for street fighting that mostly depends on the fighter than the style. In a 1 on 1 situation any would do but in cases were more than one attacker was present BJJ would be at the biggest disadvantage. It’s kind of hard to grappling with 2 or more guys at once unless your in a movie.
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20 years of martial arts experience.